“Unfortunately, as I said, where I grew up there was no other way and there still isn’t a way to survive, no way to work in our economy to be able to make a living,” Guzmán told Penn. Throughout the interview, Guzmán details his childhood and how he got into the drug business. The two eventually met face to face at an unidentified compound in the jungle in Mexico. “My head is swimming, labeling TracPhones (burners), one per contact, one per day, destroy, burn, buy, balancing levels of encryption, mirroring through Blackphones, anonymous e-mail addresses, unsent messages accessed in draft form,” the actor wrote for Rolling Stone. Penn details the security measures he took while planning to meet Guzmán. The reports detail Guzmán’s escape from prison in July 2015, when he slipped through a hole in the floor of his shower into a mile-long tunnel where a motorcycle was waiting for him. Penn’s story for Rolling Stone magazine was published online Saturday night. Guzmán, one of the world’s most wanted fugitives, met with Penn over seven hours in October and had several follow-up interviews via phone and video, according to a New York Times report. In the months after Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán escaped from a Mexican prison, actor and director Sean Penn interviewed the notorious druglord as he evaded capture.
